Season 2 · Episode 3

Lai Lai - Melting Magnets Photography

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0:01Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome to Alienize Photos industry talk with your host
0:10photographer Jackson, alien Steven Jackson, the author, the photographer, which we share a common
0:20entrance where we first met being each other's models and photographers and shooting together
0:28really learning together and growing together. I gotta say at one point you were my coach,
0:33you know, you're younger than me. So it was also an honor to do so many great things together.
0:40What said, oh my goodness, going out of the state, flying. I commend you for that. That was all.
0:52Well, yeah, definitely wouldn't expect all that, but thank you.
0:59Unpack it, but want to introduce yourself to the audience here. My name is. All right.
1:14My name is Lay. All right. Hold on one more time.
1:20But yeah, thank you so much. Definitely appreciate that. And yeah, my name is Lay Lay,
1:29freelance photographer. I go to Kent State now and yeah, we did a hell of a lot of stuff.
1:37Oh my goodness, we went to San Diego, pulled the 360 booth across that San Diego beach.
1:45That was the experience. That was the whole experience. And I needed my partner.
1:50I had to. I needed my partner. That was a lot.
1:59The emotion that we captured that day is like, man, just a experience like everybody
2:07experience because sometimes we hold in that hurt and that pain. And it's like,
2:14you know, I got through my own stuff, but just to see it on another level,
2:18you know, someone's family member, you know, son, brother, sister,
2:24auntie, mother, like go through this and heavy and you can really feel it.
2:35And like, I'm looking at that, like this flash, that wave, the sea of emotions,
2:43energy, emotion. And I'd like to ask a lot of the creators this question describing
2:52your creator process. How would you describe it as a weather forecast?
2:59Describing my creative process as a weather would be a little bit over all over the place,
3:15honestly. Like I would describe it like Cleveland weather. Anything can happen tomorrow.
3:25It'd be the hottest days, it'd be the coldest days, it'd be the warmest days,
3:31the coolest days. Anything can happen. Like anything, like whether the storm,
3:38like the storm come, it rain, it pours my emotions. I put my emotions into my projects too.
3:45So I do get myself into it. It do be the tears pouring. It do be the
3:54cries and the hurting and trying to actually get things perfect. But really interesting to
4:01compare it to the weather. Let's say just like how Cleveland weather is,
4:04like why are we right there by the lake? Like yes, we get everything. We get the
4:10hail, snow, rain, wind blowing, then the sun come out. That's me all in the day, honestly. I mean
4:18it might sound a little bipolar, it probably is, but it really sounds a little bit over all
4:22over the place. But yes, in a day I could do three photo shoots. I say three because they
4:28still got time to take to get across town, but I can do it. How long are your photo shoots?
4:34At least two hours at the least. So two. So, you know, so six hours. Yeah. Yeah. And working
4:41that out. You got to sleep sometimes. Drive time, eight hours. Yeah. So I'm driving all
4:48across Ohio. Sometimes I go to Michigan. Hell, we'll see about Pennsylvania, but.
4:55Well, it sounds like you travel a lot. What's your favorite place to travel? Sandusky.
5:06Um, the drive there is pretty much straight from Cleveland where I'm at, just straight.
5:12Like that's pretty, that's not bad at all. I don't mind getting on the toll. I don't mind
5:17taking the streets. I don't, that's cool. Um, but yeah, Sandusky got my favorite stores out
5:23there. Same stores we got in Cleveland, same store they got out there, but they got more
5:27stores out there. Great. Love it. Yeah. And no, I don't do the Cedar Point stuff. I go to
5:33Kalahari. We go to Kalahari all the time though. Yeah. Oh yeah. I've definitely been
5:42with E-Rock. You know, my life partner, you know, encouraged me, wanted me for a while.
5:49Finally got it. And we shot a music video for E-Rock. I don't know if you heard
5:55Higher. But yeah, we shot that out and yeah, Cedar Point. It was, it was wild. It was
6:06awesome. Like, oh, well you can't get your camera on the rollercoaster. Yeah. I mean,
6:16I got glasses that record, you know, that's nice. Meta glasses. Yeah. Can't wait to see
6:23that. I need to talk to the big company so that they can give me the sponsor. Yeah. I gotta
6:28show examples of my work, but with the teamwork, I love teamwork and you know,
6:34we've done a lot of projects together. What would you say was your favorite project
6:38as your partner? With you specifically, I'll show y'all. We can still talk. I'm actually
6:49reaching into my camera bag. I'm not too far from it. I'm actually grabbing it right here.
6:52I actually keep it as a portfolio, but yeah, where was this taken? You see this? I mean,
7:04honestly, I would call it the Bonnie and Clyde type of theme deal here. Yeah. But I mean,
7:10honestly, yes, I did print mostly pictures of me. Let's be honest here. I did, but you,
7:14I got some pictures of you in here too. Yes, I did. And yes, I like to print out pictures.
7:22Yes. I like to print out pictures. I like to have physical copies. Yes. I love it. I will
7:30re-edit them though. Like, yeah, we could. Oh my goodness. No, we need to post them.
7:34First off, everybody, we ain't never posted them. Y'all don't even know.
7:39But I printed them out. Yeah. This is part of my portfolio. Our theme was to,
7:48I guess, wear something red. I wore a red velvet dress. The green and the grass pop with the blue
7:56in the background and the sky. And some of the pictures came out black and white too,
8:01but you know, that works out. I love the black and white. That could be the contrast.
8:06You know, it's very well. I love it. So definitely had to print out these pictures.
8:13Hopefully we'll be posting these soon. We'll see.
8:16Wow. Look out for the project. We definitely had to.
8:23You already know. We should actually be recording you looking through it. How about that?
8:29Right. Mm hmm. Oh, where the flag at? Yes.
9:04Where that flag at? We need it. I need another shoot. I need another shoot. Hold on. I need
9:10another shoot. Where that flag at? Then we put it on the time. I had to jump in there. Look
9:15love it. Oh, y'all. I love using the timer. Y'all will see me out shooting by myself. I'm an
9:23actress, model, photographer, videographer. I will shoot. I wanted to be behind the scenes
9:28that day. Like that's crazy. We do the timer. The timer helps. I will buy one by the way.
9:34Just let me know how much. How you put together a little thing. Where is it? Oh,
9:43shit. Take it back. Y'all can't even see this. Yeah. Love that. Love that. That was beautiful.
9:50Merging the brands. That was beautiful. That was really nice, y'all.
9:53That was a day. Oh, that's funny how I got the camera.
10:01I just saw that. Oh, my God. No, that's terrible. But this bow. But why your head
10:07turned around? You're taking the picture. Come on. You see it. Oh,
10:16when it showed my face, that is hilarious. That's hilarious. I didn't do that on purpose.
10:23Only peeps of women. I mean, do you want an actual copy of this? You can have this.
10:28Yes, you can have that. I've shown a million people by now.
10:32I need another billion. Another billion. But yeah, I love that. Yes, I keep that in my
10:39bag, right? They'd be like, let me see a picture. Hey, this is crazy. I am gorgeous.
10:57I love this. So crazy. How long ago was this? 2020. I should have put the year on.
11:04Pre-Covid. I should have put the year on. But we don't like pictures with the timestamps
11:11no more. We was like, we know this is probably going to be our last photo shoot.
11:14We're about to do it up. We can't go outside. Can't see nobody. But hey, we did it. Yeah,
11:19we had the whole. It was crazy. I remember. Oh, let me show you another one. You know,
11:27you know what? That's crazy. I mean, that was my favorite one. Yes, I think I answered
11:31your question. Yes, that was my favorite one. Oh, tuesday. Melton Magnus. 20. Yeah,
11:43that wasn't too far off, though. Now, the first picture in this book is one of my
11:53my very first photo shoot like ever. I asked a bunch of my friends to go to an abandoned
11:57building. And we did like our little Black Lives Matter theme type poses pictures. And
12:02this picture got into a gallery and we actually called it breaking. But yeah,
12:09and I called it breaking, got into a gallery about 2016. Love it. The rest of this book,
12:15protest day, 2020. I believe May pictures. Plenty of these bury me in the ocean with
12:26the ancestors who jumped from the ships because they knew death was better than bondage. I
12:40actually went out with alien. He got a little bit closer than me when getting that close.
12:45It's not getting that close to the riots. Now they started throwing tear gas. It's time
12:50I definitely did. Um, shooting without bullets was a youth activism program where we
13:10expressed our social where we shoot. All right. Shooting without bullets is a social justice
13:19youth arts program where I express my photography using our Black Lives Matter theme,
13:28using more of our abandoned buildings for photo shoots, using more real life people
13:34in walking through our neighborhoods. So lots of pictures like that. That book is our protest day
13:41here in Cleveland. We've done a project like that, but that's definitely something, you know,
13:51merging reality and what you see in your environment and making art out of it.
13:56Definitely better way to say that. So you're artists. What does art mean to you?
14:04I mean, art means everything to me. Art is creativity. Art is science. Art is mass.
14:10Art is everything. I chose to go to school to be a director to think I would be just
14:17doing art. What did I really think art was? Not hard work. Okay. Not precise measurements.
14:29Uh, you know, not having to be precise, but that's okay. So I'm taking theater classes.
14:41I'm thinking I'm just acting. No, I get sewing because I can make costumes from scratch,
14:49period costumes from different eras. I got to learn how to do the diff do saw sanders and
14:59constructing building a set with screws, nails, staple crown, staples and
15:05difference in staples and saws. Well rounded, right? So art is everything to me. When I get up,
15:15I got to cook something to eat. I got to think of something created to eat. I want
15:18strawberry, something sweet with something else, right? I want to, oh my goodness,
15:24don't get me started on germs. Okay. Cause I do carry around disinfectant wipes with me.
15:32You ever wipe some and you see it change the color. Oh my God. Don't start with me.
15:42To literally the things I see. I'm a photographer. I see details. I see dirt.
15:47I keep disinfectant wipes with me. Period. I'm not going to go into that,
15:53but I see things. I see different things that people don't see.
15:56I'll tell you to fix your necklace. Cause your clasp is in the front, you know,
16:01I'll tell you to like, um, pick up your shirt. It's tucked in your pants the wrong way. I'm just,
16:06Hey, this is, this is true. And these probably examples about me. I'm like, oh yeah,
16:13I'm not picking with you. Fix it. I'm some of these examples.
16:20Yeah. Definitely attention to detail. And you know, that's the beauty of a team,
16:24you know, having each other's back. And especially if you're not keen to those
16:29specific details, you know, let me focus on one thing. It's always good to have somebody to
16:35have your back and take care of those details and point them out.
16:43And many times, even, uh, setting up a tripod, the base of the legs.
16:47And I'm telling everybody, no. They better be parallel.
16:54Yeah. And that's a tripod for the phone. Nobody care about that.
16:57But this camera, this camera better be right.
17:01Them lights. Oh, them lights better be right. My phone tripod, that ring light.
17:06I don't care about that. Yeah. Just yeah. I'm like, yeah. Okay.
17:13It's details is very much. There's a lot of details. I enjoy the details. I'm a Virgo.
17:17So I think I'm a detailed type of person. All in the detail.
17:24All in the detail. That's crazy.
17:28Have you ever seen those books before? Those like, have you ever seen those?
17:37I've seen the pictures, nothing. Right. I've seen this book. Yeah.
17:41Okay. That's all I was about to say. I was like, have I ever showed you?
17:44I don't think I've ever showed you. I don't remember. All right. Cool.
17:47Yeah. So that's what should like three top art forms.
18:11Three top art forms. That's a good question.
18:15I mean, what do you really mean though? Like just be a little bit more specific
18:19because I mean, I love art, but be a little bit more specific.
18:21Well, you dance, you act, photography. Right.
18:26I can say a lot of, you know, even doing off stage stuff and behind the scenes,
18:32you know, woodwork, like you said, setting up stages, costume, wardrobe.
18:38So diverse. I don't want to limit your creativity because, you know, everybody
18:44called me alien because I'm so multifaceted, talented, creative, imaginative
18:51out of this world, higher level thinking, you know, genius level
18:58speaker, thinker, strategist. So I definitely get it.
19:04So with you doing a lot, what's your top three things?
19:09Whether creativity, behind the scenes, maybe it's financial, being a financial
19:16banker, manager, investor. Or it could be something creative.
19:23Yeah, I'm about to say them sound like categories. So it just got to be
19:28a little bit more specific to me because like you said, what's my favorite book?
19:32You know, not even my favorite book, my favorite photo shoot that we did.
19:37Cool. That's specific. I can find that. But like that, I could find that.
19:42But I have more pictures, though. You know, I have plenty more photo shoots,
19:47thousands of fucking pictures and all that. But my favorite, I mean,
19:51I can't really narrow it because I do everything at once.
19:56Like I said, art is everything. So like that full control.
20:01Oh, no, you got to still be more specific.
20:04You like full control over whatever you create?
20:08I mean, I want a team. I don't like doing this stuff by myself.
20:15I don't want to do everything by myself.
20:16I'm completely capable of doing entirely everything by myself,
20:20but I don't want to do it by myself.
20:24So what would you say is the first thing that comes to mind as far as creating?
20:28Like, I want to I want to be behind the camera.
20:32I want to be in front of the camera. I want to be dancing.
20:34I want to.
20:36It was like the first thing that like I want to do this first
20:38and then everything could work around me doing this.
20:41Well, then that's just bringing out my camera.
20:43Like, now we're going we're going to do a little behind the scenes
20:46and shoot there real quick.
20:49All right. Now we back.
20:50So like all this stuff right here, this is what I do.
20:53This is me. I keep a tripod on me.
20:56I keep it on a whole pole.
21:00Now, keep it on me.
21:01Right. I keeps my camera on me, whether my phone and all that.
21:05Right. Within my old little programs, we used to have a little joke
21:08like we were shooters for real.
21:10You keep it. You keep all your little magazines.
21:13You know, you keep your little SD cards and magazine little clip.
21:16Right. Keep camera loaded with a little SD card.
21:19Keep battery charged.
21:21All that. Like, I love it.
21:23But we had a little pack like that was awesome.
21:26But it was great.
21:28Always have my camera on me.
21:30Always keep the little pole on me.
21:32All that.
21:32Always have my camera on me.
21:35So I go to school.
21:36I will put my tripod down with my phone on it.
21:39Walk away.
21:39Come back to my little walk in.
21:41All that.
21:43Content. All that.
21:44Y'all ain't even seen it yet.
21:46I like it though.
21:48Even speaking about content, how important is content as a newer photographer?
21:52Want to start off and kind of get their work monetized
21:58or get hired and get paid for it.
22:00What would you say to a new photographer?
22:02I say just do it.
22:04Like literally, I keep my camera on me.
22:06I'd be like, oh, that was stupid.
22:09I should have recorded that.
22:10Like, that'd be seriously a moment.
22:13And my life is a moment.
22:15Like everything is a moment.
22:17Being the reason I do everything is to capture the moment.
22:21Whether I wrote it down, created it.
22:22Put the actors in places.
22:24Cool.
22:26But sometimes real life be better.
22:28So in the moment, you know?
22:31Keep your tripod on you.
22:32Keep your ring light on you.
22:34Hey, go to Five Below and get your little vlog set.
22:37It ain't that hard.
22:39It ain't that hard.
22:40Be like, oh, that's stupid.
22:43Yes.
22:43Post it.
22:45iPhone.
22:45Even if you do the selfie, which I don't recommend
22:48because the, you know, the rear camera is the best camera.
22:52Always tell people to have it just, you know.
22:54Remember that.
22:55I have a mirror on the back of my phone.
22:58All right.
22:58We're going to skip to grab that.
23:03And bring it back.
23:04Yes, I have a mirror on the back of my phone.
23:09OK.
23:12So is that something?
23:14We got to talk about that.
23:15We got to make our own.
23:16We're going to bring it in then.
23:16We got to make our own.
23:18Can we make these?
23:25Got it from Shane for like $2.
23:26We could go buy a whole bunch of these for $2.
23:28We could sell them for $20.
23:30That ain't shit.
23:31We could do that.
23:31Y'all heard that live.
23:33So this is our deal.
23:34We made right on the spot.
23:35That ain't shit.
23:36This is a, this is a, this is a everyday though.
23:39We going on, Shane.
23:40Keep cool.
23:42We think of a lot of products, you know.
23:44And tell me, that's how my brain works, y'all.
23:47Yeah, that's how we get all the time.
23:48Being just plain easy.
23:50What you mean?
23:51That's why I was like, yeah, we got to, we got to bring
23:54something unique to the people.
23:56I know this would be like a overdue conversation.
23:59It's been a while.
24:00Like you said, you in school, you doing your thing.
24:03I'm, you know, finding my way in business
24:06and entrepreneurship.
24:08And this is overdue.
24:12Very overdue.
24:13I'm like, I appreciate you.
24:14We be busy though.
24:16I think that is crazy.
24:18Yeah.
24:19What's the biggest thing you've learned
24:20in school so far?
24:21Like how to read a ruler.
24:24How to read all y'all artists out there.
24:26Do y'all know how to read a ruler?
24:27I'm just asking.
24:28I'm just asking.
24:29I don't know.
24:30I went to art school all my life.
24:31Second grade, graduating high school,
24:33right back at it, Kent State.
24:35Love it.
24:37All my life, I ain't know I had to know
24:38how to read a ruler.
24:39You know, the little itsy bitsy dots
24:42between the inch, like the inch in the,
24:49I feel like public school was a waste of time.
24:54I feel like I didn't learn what I was supposed to learn.
24:58I said it.
24:59But what I learned in college is how to read a ruler.
25:03Why do you need to know how to read a ruler
25:05to build costumes from like literal clothes,
25:09like measurements, right?
25:11Building a set, architecture, construction.
25:17Cool.
25:18These are things I have to do
25:19as a director cinematographer now.
25:21I learned how to read a ruler
25:22and I didn't know I actually had to.
25:29How long was that process?
25:30Yo, I cried.
25:31Me and my teacher, she was like,
25:32I cried in front of my teacher.
25:35I had to.
25:35I'm like, what do you mean?
25:38What do you mean, right?
25:39I'm like, first off, I felt bad for myself.
25:44And that was an experience right there.
25:45I'm like, wait, I never learned this.
25:47Never knew.
25:48She just said, this is, this, this.
25:50No, I don't get anything you're saying.
25:53No, I'm breaking down this.
25:55What?
25:56No.
26:02Popang, right?
26:05Eighth of an inch.
26:06One little nine sixteenth of an inch.
26:09Mess up the entire project.
26:11Wow.
26:13What is a nine sixteenth?
26:15Why is the details?
26:17Now I'm back in it, looking at every inch.
26:21What they say, 2.5 centimeters are an estimated inch.
26:29Yes, 2.5 centimeters are within an inch.
26:33Estimated.
26:34Not even exactly.
26:35So now I got to work with that.
26:36Like, I never knew that.
26:38That's crazy.
26:38But that's something, that's actually that.
26:40And that will help me with everything.
26:42Y'all ain't even ready for this.
26:43Y'all ain't ready for this.
26:45It was such an experience.
26:46I'm about to get a tattoo.
26:48Yeah, I just want the little, I just want the little marks.
26:51Like, I want it absolutely exactly to the T.
26:55Nine sixteenths of an inch.
26:57Like, quit playing.
26:57Like, yes, I want the whole ruler mark,
26:59but it's going to look like stitches.
27:01Y'all, I have a scary movie tattoo arm.
27:04Okay, cool.
27:05But it's going to look like stitches on my arm.
27:08It ain't going to look like no goofy ass ruler.
27:10All right.
27:10It's going to look lit.
27:12Y'all got to see it later.
27:14Coming way later.
27:16So is it like technology to measure it?
27:18Because I know, like.
27:20Yep.
27:20And your skin going to grow a little stupid stuff like that.
27:22That's why it's going to look like stitches.
27:25So, but yes, exactly measures.
27:27I want to be able to be an artist, put my arm down.
27:30Like, I am a whole puzzle.
27:36I'm the whole piece to every, every missing program.
27:39Like all that.
27:40I fit in.
27:41Cool.
27:42Everybody love me.
27:43I love everybody.
27:45I do that.
27:45So if I put myself into, into it, right,
27:48I put myself into my arts.
27:52Schooler on me.
27:52I don't care.
27:53I learned that.
27:54Can't nobody.
27:54I'll be, I'll be sitting here like.
27:58Y'all, I am the goofiest person.
28:00But it's okay because I'm successful.
28:03But goofy is, I am very goofy.
28:05Yes, I am.
28:06But I enjoy it.
28:07I enjoy everything.
28:10What was some of your biggest, like starting your business?
28:15First business.
28:19Milk to Magnet's first business.
28:21Well, my first LLC.
28:24What do you mean?
28:25What is my first business?
28:26Like what are you asking?
28:27Yeah.
28:32My first business was cleaning my granny's house.
28:36Like literally cleaning her house.
28:40I just went over there and cleaned glasses
28:42and wiped her glasses, wiped her windows,
28:44wiped her tables, all the glass vacuum, like cleaning.
28:48Did that for a couple of other people.
28:50That was actually cool.
28:52Like something simple I could do.
28:53I'm very detail oriented.
28:56And like I said, I keep disinfecting wipes with me.
28:59So that's a different type of a different type of business.
29:06And then from there, it did get creative.
29:09So from there, my grandma bought me my first sewing machine.
29:12Not gonna say that was a business,
29:13but got creative, right?
29:16But I started making duct tape wallets and selling them.
29:21So actually made the wallets.
29:26My mama, my family be having card games.
29:29I go down there when all the grown folks playing and all that.
29:32They got money on the table.
29:34I had some to sell.
29:36Sold them little wallets
29:37so they could put their little money all in there
29:39and some little stuff.
29:40Everybody bought them off the table.
29:41They like, oh, I love your hustle.
29:43Like a natural hustle.
29:44Natural hustle.
29:45My mom was like, oh, okay.
29:47Well, to the school of arts, you go.
29:48She was like, you know,
29:49that's the place she knew I was gonna belong.
29:52What is something you would say to a new photographer
29:55that doesn't have that hustle or that ambition
29:58that fuel under them to get them to their success?
30:05What would I say to get,
30:07what would I say to motivate them?
30:08I mean, it'd be different situations, but like just.
30:12Would have had a hustler mentality
30:14because not everybody, you know, got it.
30:17Oh, just do it.
30:18Get up and do it.
30:19You wearing Nike, just do it.
30:21Just like Nike, just do it.
30:23You really just got to do it.
30:25Simple.
30:26It's not, it's easier said than done.
30:29Right.
30:29But the more you practice, the better you get.
30:33You miss every shot you take.
30:35You don't take, right?
30:36You miss every shot you don't take.
30:38True.
30:39Just do it.
30:40Literally, like, okay, that don't look right.
30:43Good.
30:44Edit it.
30:46Okay.
30:47I don't like the way this look.
30:49Edit it.
30:51Oh, my God.
30:51Some people be like,
30:53I don't like the way my face look.
30:58Love yourself.
30:59What do you mean?
31:00Love yourself.
31:01This is you.
31:02Say what you want to say.
31:03Be who you want to be.
31:09Pictures of people.
31:10They be like, whoa, I ain't feeling.
31:13What you mean?
31:13You out.
31:14You can't dress.
31:15You look good.
31:15You are okay.
31:17This is for you.
31:18I'm not about to post this.
31:20Hey, if you go back, how much how much time goes into the editing process?
31:28It's never clients don't understand.
31:30It's never done.
31:31People don't understand in general.
31:33Sometimes it takes time.
31:36It's never done.
31:38And then when you when you know, when you go watch a movie in the theater,
31:41you'll be like, no, no, no, this is from an editor's perspective.
31:44When you be watching a movie in the real thing like this, the final cut,
31:48you'll be looking like this ain't the final cut.
31:51Yeah, you have to.
31:52Do better than that.
31:54We could.
31:54Oh, I could have did or looking from an actor's point of view.
31:57You look.
31:57Oh, I could have did it.
31:59It's not all the time.
32:00It's never done.
32:01So you ask the client when I give you your product.
32:03I understand.
32:04Yes, you do want extra tweaks.
32:06It's never done.
32:10So, yes, that's why we charge so much for editing.
32:13Yeah.
32:14That's why I like to push projects up ahead because, you know,
32:17they they have in their head, you know, two weeks.
32:20But yeah, we still got to work on the video.
32:22Like we need, you know, planning time to even go over,
32:26even to make revisions, like you say, at the editing process to edit.
32:31Actually, you go there and you shoot or you get the footage
32:35and you didn't shoot it.
32:37Right.
32:37But if you shot it, you have to go back twice to rewatch it.
32:42You have to watch it over and over and over going to the detail.
32:48You look at this.
32:50Cut it out.
32:52Cut it out.
32:52That's actually what it's called.
32:54You have to split and cut in editing.
32:56Cut it out.
32:58When we were very, very first starting making film.
33:02No, literally when film was first ever made,
33:05you had to cut the physical film, take a piece of tape,
33:10tape it together, put it on the reel and slide it like a slideshow.
33:14Wow.
33:15That's what you and you had 24 frames per second.
33:19And then frame this picture, picture, picture editing process.
33:28It's a lot.
33:29And it's always been a lot.
33:30We try to upgrade it, get it easier.
33:32But it's interesting, though.
33:33Have you ever blended it to like where you
33:37film digital, but they had the film also
33:41and then tailored the time that the timeline with the film pictures.
33:48I'm going to say no, but I can edit it basically like a template and edit it.
33:54The digital.
33:56Anything film can be scanned.
33:59You know what I'm saying?
34:01OK.
34:01Film is physical.
34:03You're not about to easily do too much with that
34:06because now everything is digital.
34:08So for film, you're going to scan it like a printer,
34:11like a piece of paper, like, and then get that image into the computer.
34:17So after that, then, you know, do whatever you want to scan it.
34:22Told you it's my first coach, y'all.
34:26Still coaching.
34:27You see that?
34:29Yeah, it film photography.
34:33So actual black and white film photography.
34:36That was awesome.
34:38I did that with the Cleveland Print Room
34:41and that experience was awesome in a dark room
34:44in the pitch black dark, sometimes maybe with a red light on.
34:49But working with chemicals right to before you go in the dark room,
34:55like literally practice blindfolding.
34:57I thought that was hilarious.
34:59But once you walked in there, it ain't no turning on no lights.
35:02Yeah.
35:03You can't see when you walk in.
35:06You feel for your desk.
35:07You feel for your tools.
35:08Cool.
35:09I love that.
35:09That was actually a great experience.
35:11So it's literally a dark room.
35:13It's literally a dark room.
35:15You maybe get a little red light.
35:17Maybe the red light come from.
35:22You know, it's a chemical.
35:25No, no, it's like a reflection of the chemicals.
35:28It does help in the reflection.
35:30But I am not specifically sure on the science.
35:33It does help the reflection.
35:36I'm really thinking you might get a red light.
35:41That's about it.
35:42But otherwise, it was a dark room for the chemicals.
35:45So yeah, because you can't carry no light.
35:48Yeah.
35:51Now, that's a whole other conversation.
35:52So we're getting to that.
35:54So how do you be?
35:55How do you get real precise or how do you?
35:59Because like you say, you're dealing with chemicals.
36:00You don't want to have a chemical.
36:02Oh, you're right.
36:03Right, right.
36:04Now, like I said, that's another whole conversation.
36:07Because let me tell you, they will forever say,
36:08don't put your hands in it.
36:10I put my hands in it and my nails grew.
36:12That's all I'm telling you.
36:15Well.
36:17My nose was popping the whole program long.
36:20OK, natural nails to this day.
36:22Lovely.
36:25Photography at that point, too.
36:26Oh, is that what you're trying to see?
36:28Is that my rain nails or making pictures?
36:30Cutting pictures like you DJ.
36:32Like, you know, yes, yes, absolutely.
36:35You're going to shake your picture a little bit.
36:37Yes, you are.
36:38I put my hand in the chemicals with my picture.
36:41Move around a little bit.
36:43Pick it up.
36:43Take it out.
36:44Oh, man.
36:44If I dance with it.
36:45You know, get my hair.
36:47Hey, singing with it.
36:48Oh, see doing my thing.
36:51Shake it up a little bit.
36:53Keep them going.
36:53And it's a process.
36:54It's a very, very long process to make a picture.
36:58But y'all go to Walgreens for that.
36:59I like to do it in the dark room.
37:03OK, so we have creativity.
37:06We have science.
37:08What about spirituality?
37:09So creativity, spirituality and science.
37:13How do you balance the three within your art?
37:19Literally, like everything is art to me.
37:22True artists in my spirituality.
37:24Like I said, my mama put me in the Cleveland School of the Arts
37:27because she knew that's where I belong.
37:29And that's where I belong.
37:31That's where I got along with everybody.
37:34I think that was, you know, meant to be.
37:36I think I get a lot of coincidences in life.
37:38I think I think everything I get
37:41really is an interesting coincidence.
37:43I can think of it in my head and I can make it happen.
37:46So to my sewing, right, when I was first a kid,
37:49I never used a pattern.
37:50Nope, never did.
37:51I got to be able to think of it and make it great.
37:56Beautiful.
37:56I mean, I'm a kid.
37:57I don't know about measurements and all that extra stuff.
38:00But yes, I did make it awesome.
38:13Then creativity, spirituality and science within your art.
38:17Oh, yeah, that's literally everything I do.
38:20Like whenever I get a thought in my head,
38:22I got to make it happen.
38:23I'm going to map it out.
38:24I'm going to create a blueprint in here,
38:26do the whole pattern blueprint measurements.
38:31And I get to doing it like a behind this wall right here.
38:36It's a lot of creation.
38:38Okay, as a matter of fact,
38:41my camera is not even on a real tripod.
38:43It's on my mate, my phone, my phone tripod.
38:46I put two different pieces together.
38:48You did.
38:49So honestly, I didn't know this for a long time.
38:53Somebody else do it.
38:54That's an emergency.
38:55So don't be doing that.
38:58I don't know.
38:58That's emergencies only.
39:01But yes, I have a lot of goofy things about me
39:08that I'm very clumsy.
39:11So even with my arts, I make everything work for me, right?
39:15So I got a lot of pillows in my room.
39:18For if I fall, literally, I will.
39:21Little goofy stuff.
39:22So keep my lights on me, keep my tripod on me,
39:25whatever I feel like I'm doing in class.
39:27Sometimes I will post what I'm doing in class.
39:31I enjoy everything I do.
39:33So every day I wake up, I am an artist.
39:37I wake up and think of something creative to do.
39:41When I'm bored, I think of something creative to do.
39:44When I'm shopping, I look for something creative.
39:48You know, something fashionable, different.
39:55Burning sage every day, surely.
39:59Like a wake up routine?
40:02No, I don't even have a routine.
40:03It's get creative.
40:07All natural products, for sure.
40:10All natural everything.
40:12Y'all rarely see me with makeup.
40:14Y'all rarely see me with my hair done.
40:15And that's perfectly fine with me
40:17because I'm literally me being me every day.
40:20I'm an artist.
40:22The clothes I put on are art.
40:23The hairstyle I choose is art.
40:26Food I eat is colorful like the rainbow, you know?
40:38I think art goes with everything with me.
40:46What are some projects you're working on now?
40:51What project do you want to work on now?
40:54Because sometimes both is different.
40:58I right now am working on finally
41:00ending the school year 2025.
41:06I'm taking a wood shop building the sets type of class.
41:11So I'm building a pencil holder
41:13as a four by four piece of lumber.
41:16And I'm gonna drill some holes in it
41:18and try to make the holes big enough
41:20for my little lip gloss, pencils and little stuff.
41:24Just a little thing I'm gonna paint paint.
41:26Keep it simple.
41:28Then I am making a romantic vest.
41:32I've already finished my 19th century pair of trousers
41:36which were a 32 size male.
41:39And I am making a vest to go with it
41:42for my class costume technology.
41:47Then I have to learn projection.
41:49So actual like, you know,
41:51projecting things onto the stage during a performance.
41:55So my idea for my final project is to just do the weather.
41:58Like how would the weather look in a window of a performance?
42:02You know, if I'm getting storm and lightning,
42:04I want more dramatic effects like that.
42:07But projections are very hard to do.
42:10So we're gonna get into that.
42:14And I just wanna keep sewing.
42:15I think I'm gonna keep sewing for the most part of this year.
42:19I will keep sewing.
42:21And I want to get into more scary movies.
42:26So scary movies.
42:27Yes, that is my goal here.
42:29I really want to make a scary movie.
42:32So if I'm gonna write it
42:34or if I'm gonna do short reels.
42:39What's your favorite scary movie?
42:40Oh, that is so funny.
42:42That is hilarious.
42:43How dare you say such a thing?
42:48You don't even know what I'm doing, do you?
42:50You don't know what I'm doing, do you?
42:52It's scary.
42:52Yes.
42:53You're hilarious.
42:55How dare you ask me that?
42:56You think that's a scary movie?
42:58No, I think that's more comedy.
43:00Absolutely.
43:01Those are hilarious.
43:02All scary movies are funny to me.
43:04That's just me.
43:05Really?
43:05Yes.
43:06I can't watch them all day.
43:07Oh, I could watch them all day.
43:09All day, any day throughout the day.
43:13But my favorite scary movie of all time ever is Chucky.
43:20Everybody should know that.
43:22Chucky is a weird.
43:23I feel like everybody should know that.
43:25But honestly, I do have the Chucky doll.
43:27So I got the whole family finally.
43:32So what would be your style or like directing style
43:35with the horror movies?
43:37Oh, I love Tim Burton movies
43:39and I love his horror gothic style, right?
43:43Love that from, you know,
43:46Winona Ryder and Johnny Depp.
43:48Love, love, love that style.
43:52So definitely want to go there, right?
43:55But also loving Jordan Peele, right?
44:02Okay.
44:02Is that his name?
44:06Yes, love that.
44:08Yes, love that.
44:10Um, Stephen King and the way he writes.
44:14So horrifying.
44:17It's so detailed.
44:19You know, love that.
44:25My senior year,
44:28I had to stop being scared of scary movies, you know?
44:30And I wrote a monologue that had the whole audience
44:36rolling laughing, right?
44:38And to this day,
44:39y'all be rolling laughing when y'all see it.
44:42And I be loving it.
44:44That is the exact reaction
44:46I want you to see out of my horror films.
44:48I want you to see me being a cute little,
44:51cute little girl, but just cute, just nice
44:56in different type of way though, right?
44:59So like Beetlejuice, right?
45:01She said, I too am strange and unusual.
45:18Something different.
45:20And that would be like your niche.
45:23Like once you're done with school,
45:24you're going to dive straight into that.
45:26Okay.
45:27Yeah.
45:27I need to work on it while I'm in school.
45:30So every different project needs to add to that.
45:33I need to be doing stuff.
45:36So I have a genre analysis pro,
45:38yeah, genre analysis paper
45:40that I have to write for a film class.
45:43With that intel.
45:45Right.
45:45Who thought you had the right for a film class?
45:49Anyways, genre analysis.
45:53So basically I chose horror, right?
45:56But then we have sub genres,
45:58which are taking two different things
46:00and combining them such as horror and comedy.
46:04Then we get old scary movie pairings, right?
46:08So I chose to do horror,
46:10got more specific into Dracula, right?
46:14The analysis is to see the difference
46:18in our Dracula movies, right?
46:20So I chose three different Dracula movies.
46:27This is live, y'all.
46:32Interview right now.
46:33I'm going to call you right back.
47:02Am I supposed to hit the button or something?
47:04Huh?
47:05Do you want me to hit the button or something?
47:06Oh, you're good.
47:07It's still going.
47:07Okay, cool.
47:08All right.
47:08Back to it.
47:09Ready?
47:09What was the question?
47:15We can reset.
47:16We're good.
47:21I kind of want to shift gears to a question.
47:33No one asked you that you want someone to ask you
47:36about your work or not work art.
47:45I want to call it more art, art work, art work, art work.
47:48Put it together.
47:49Art work.
47:50Yeah, but it still be I got so many things
47:53y'all don't even know.
47:55I don't know how to even tell y'all
47:57what I don't know how to tell y'all.
47:59You know what I'm saying?
48:01Like I really get ideas in my head
48:04and I just do like if I was to say something
48:08motivational to somebody, just do it.
48:11Like I'm not even sure.
48:15See the question.
48:16What was the question?
48:23It was a good one.
48:31It was a good one.
48:36Let me get off track.
48:37That was a good one.
48:42Oh, if what is it?
48:44What is it?
48:45What is the question that I want somebody to ask me?
48:48Yeah.
48:48What's the question I want somebody to ask?
48:51I got excited.
48:52I was waiting.
48:57I was waiting so hard on the answer.
48:58I'm like, what was the question?
49:00I was I was waiting.
49:01I was I'm trying to think too because then it'd be like,
49:05okay, because I can do a million things
49:07and then it'd be like, I really be wanting people.
49:10I don't know what I want people to ask.
49:11Someone if a little kid came up to you to ask you.
49:23Yeah, I don't like people asking me for shit.
49:26What are you?
49:29May sound harsh, though.
49:31Kids give it to you.
49:32You're not going to say it like that,
49:33but they ain't got no filter neither.
49:35They don't have no filter.
49:37But yeah, no, I don't.
49:38What would you want to ask them?
49:41What do you do?
49:43But a kid, if I ask that, what is that thing over there?
49:46Yeah, I'd be like, I do a lot.
49:49Like I'm the artist of all things.
49:51Like I sew, I make things.
49:53Okay, a teenage kid.
49:56Don't you want a job?
49:58I need you to carry these bags.
50:03You want them to approach you like that?
50:04Can I have a job?
50:06Oh, I guess.
50:11And then it'd be like that.
50:12Oh my gosh.
50:13People have done that to me.
50:15Oh, don't don't get me started.
50:16People have done that.
50:20What about interns since you?
50:22I can intern because I don't have enough money to pay nobody.
50:25That's just that.
50:26I can intern all I want, but I ain't got no time.
50:30Interns to work under you.
50:31Yeah, I can have somebody intern under me.
50:33I have no problem mentoring.
50:34I have no problem tutoring.
50:36I have no problem, you know, having somebody to really help at that point.
50:41Like I got a lot of bags to bring in to set up this 360 booth.
50:46And I just need you to carry 360 before I get these bags.
50:50How much is your mentoring program?
50:53We'll get there when I'm out of school.
50:56Get there.
50:57Okay.
50:57Yeah.
50:58Focus, stay focused.
51:00Definitely got to learn a lot before I go helping everybody else.
51:03Can't help nobody until you help yourself.
51:05That's right.
51:06Self love is the biggest, you know.
51:09Yeah, I'm out here learning for the both of us.
51:12Yeah, true, true facts.
51:16You know, that's why I love being around other high level people in the industry
51:20because it's not about competitions, more about collaboration,
51:25you know, supporting each other, clapping for each other,
51:28you know, being there for each other, even even on the emotional side.
51:32Like, you good?
51:34It's been a while, you know, checking in, checking in your friends, you know.
51:38They say who check in on the strongest ones?
51:42Oh, don't get started there.
51:45Yeah, yep, yep.
51:46It's lonely at the top.
51:48Lonely at the top.
51:50That's what I said, like when we chase this and we get this success or whatever we
51:58want in life, it's like, is it ever enough?
52:02Nope.
52:03Remember Squid Game?
52:05Nope.
52:06Because you like to do it.
52:08So what about money?
52:09Like, what is it?
52:10How much money you want to know?
52:12Is it really a number or is it like?
52:14It's a million.
52:14I really want to be a billionaire.
52:16Like, that's it.
52:17I don't need, I don't got to be famous to be a million.
52:19I just want to have millions.
52:20So is 99, is it 99,000 enough?
52:27If you don't reach the million, 99,000 enough?
52:33Sure.
52:34So when is it enough?
52:35I ain't never gonna stop.
52:36Exactly.
52:36Enough is never enough.
52:38The glass is never full.
52:40It ain't half full either.
52:41It ain't never full.
52:42I ain't got enough.
52:43Let go.
52:43Keep moving.
52:45So even with art or the work we do.
52:48Ain't never done.
52:49It's never enough.
52:50Never done.
52:52What about love?
52:53Love.
52:55Relationships.
52:57Never enough.
52:58It ain't never enough.
53:01Parenting.
53:01Never enough.
53:02It ain't never enough.
53:03What our parents, we could say we,
53:04what our parents didn't do for us.
53:06And then, you know, they did a lot.
53:07I definitely.
53:08We try to make up and be in our own kids' head.
53:10I don't want kids.
53:12Then what's, what's ever enough?
53:14Exactly.
53:14Ain't nothing enough.
53:15Ain't enough food.
53:16Ain't enough water.
53:17Ain't enough outfits.
53:18Ain't enough clothes.
53:19Ain't enough knowledge.
53:20Ain't enough power.
53:21But for someone like me, that's a perfectionist.
53:24Like, how do we?
53:25Right.
53:25Now what is, what's perfect though?
53:28It is what it is.
53:30It's the eye of the beholder.
53:32I am who I am.
53:34I can't be who you want me to be.
53:36You got to accept me for who I am.
53:38Life goes on.
53:39You do what you don't.
53:43So when is the product ever finished?
53:45It ain't.
53:47Ain't never finished.
53:48It's life.
53:49It's life.
53:49It's a segment.
53:50Yeah.
53:51So when the segment is done.
53:53The frame.
53:53It's chapters.
53:54The frame.
53:54Oh, it's chapters.
53:55Going back to the film, the frame.
53:58Oh, yeah.
53:58When one thing ends, something else begins.
54:02When one life is taken, another life begins.
54:06Don't shut it down.
54:08There are, there is always room for improvements.
54:18What are some things you're improving in now?
54:20Every day I become a better me, better than I was yesterday.
54:25Every day I wake up, I make art.
54:27A good girl, yeah.
54:31Though incremental progress, as long as it's forward progress
54:37and positive progress, that's what matters.
54:41Like that incremental growth.
54:42Sometimes it jumps, compounds.
54:47But you got to be consistent.
54:49That's how you get the things you want
54:50and the success you want in life.
54:53Like, I'm always adding networking events now.
54:56Yeah.
54:57Would you be wearing a suit now?
55:01Are you old enough to be wearing a suit?
55:04At most.
55:08But, you know, getting out of my shell.
55:12Yeah.
55:13You know, I'm usually to myself behind the scenes.
55:16You don't want to sit on the couch and think about anything.
55:17Doing work.
55:19But, you know, relationships matter.
55:26That's my biggest thing.
55:27You got to meet people.
55:28You got to shake hands.
55:31Let people know who you are.
55:32Let people know what you do.
55:36How can we help each other?
55:37How can we build?
55:38How can we grow?
55:40What do you need?
55:41Oh, I know somebody that do that.
55:44I need someone who can write horror movies.
55:49Oh.
55:50Set design.
55:52Oh, I got the whole list right there.
55:54Your cheat code.
55:57But just meeting people and just knowing, like,
56:00even what I showed you before the call about the departments.
56:07And yeah, so it's just finding new ways and being creative.
56:11Like, okay, who are the people I want to serve
56:16and have the budget that I, you know,
56:21I don't want to say demand, but, you know,
56:24your work, the value that you provide and can provide
56:27and tie a lot of services together to maximize,
56:31you know, the results.
56:34Yeah, definitely look for your target audience.
56:36That's when you narrow it down.
56:41But just being creative for how I find these people, you know,
56:45I got denied for my first event.
56:49Like, no, you got to take you off the list.
56:53Yeah, registered for events, free event.
56:56It's for murders and acquisitions.
57:00And the minimum qualification to get in this room
57:02was a million dollars.
57:04And yeah, I'm not a millionaire yet.
57:07So they took me off the list.
57:09There's like excess denied.
57:12You had to have money for a free event.
57:19You know, just think about that gut wrench punch,
57:21like, oh, okay, I'll get you.
57:26You know, having that feeling like, man,
57:28that was like a shot, like, oh, okay.
57:31And I respect it though, because, you know,
57:34I like doing business with people that got it right now.
57:37You know, can you hand me a million dollars right now
57:41and about it?
57:42I get that.
57:43I respect it.
57:44Anyone take a room?
57:46I get it.
57:47So when I bought a whole room, you know, okay.
57:51You got to come back stronger.
57:53It's okay.
57:58Having that motivation that will like that.
58:01Like I asked you the question,
58:03like, how do you give someone a hustle?
58:05Sometimes you have to find it in the pain.
58:07Yes, also.
58:08Yes, definitely agree with you.
58:10You could find love through the pain.
58:14Pain through love.
58:15I feel you.
58:16Well, not necessarily.
58:17You know, don't build no trauma bonds.
58:19Yeah, don't build no trauma bonds, y'all.
58:22Don't do that.
58:23But use art as therapy.
58:26Don't use other people.
58:28Use art.
58:31Okay.
58:35How important is emotion in art?
58:38Oh, very, very, very.
58:39So I'll tell you, I got my chakras tattooed down my back
58:43every color of the rainbow has a very specific meaning
58:46to each and every person.
58:48Very specific to you and how you feel about it.
58:57Another conversation.
58:58But to me, yes, I love every color of the rainbow.
59:03You will see me wear every color of the rainbow.
59:06Like your logo, your branding.
59:09Yes, my branding is rainbows.
59:12Maybe majority black, maybe accent pink.
59:15But for the most part, there is a lot of rainbows
59:19and black is all color.
59:23So that's why I like that.
59:26So how do you come up with Milton Magnets?
59:28I heard it in the song.
59:29With the blended rainbow thing?
59:32I always heard it in the song.
59:33I like it.
59:34I just like the way it sounds.
59:38Like magnets?
59:40Connecting with people.
59:41See, you can use it as branding.
59:42It's so many ways you can say it.
59:43All right, now I'm coaching you now.
59:44It's just hot.
59:45It's a hot, it's hot.
59:46You know, melting shit.
59:50I like it.
59:51I can make a lot of things out of it.
59:53I like the connection.
59:54You can utilize that.
59:55We're going to play some stuff on camera.
59:59But magnets, we could break it down.
1:00:03We connect.
1:00:04You know, I can see the whole branding campaign.
1:00:07Look at them.
1:00:08We're going to be selling you now.
1:00:09Yeah, I was about to say you trying to sell me.
1:00:10I already got everything branded from shirts,
1:00:13wristbands, jewelry, everything already.
1:00:16This video audience, but, you know,
1:00:19never telling off the creative mind.
1:00:21Like, oh, but yeah, they call it a copy.
1:00:27Copy language, copyright.
1:00:32And it's the message behind your brand.
1:00:38That's nice, though.
1:00:39And then the photogenic collection.
1:00:42Is that part of notes and magnets?
1:00:45Is that?
1:00:45Yes, that's right up under it.
1:00:47Really, what it is is everything else I do in a collection.
1:00:53When I started making clothes, yes,
1:00:56the tag on the clothes will say photogenic collection.
1:01:00When I start building sets and making paintings,
1:01:04yes, I will sign my signature photogenic collection.
1:01:08The brand, yes.
1:01:11When I do yoga and we're stretching
1:01:16and we are at the park and the forest like outside,
1:01:24you know, creeks, ponds, lakes, all that.
1:01:28When we go outside doing yoga, yes,
1:01:31we are a part of the photogenic collection.
1:01:34To be photogenic just means that this is our shoot.
1:01:40Everything I do will have melting magnets, LLC photography.
1:01:47But what we will be doing in front of the camera
1:01:50will be for photogenic collection
1:01:53because we will be photogenic people.
1:01:56And that is always going to be my collection
1:02:00of, you know, everything else I do.
1:02:03So that will be the brand name for my other subconscious.
1:02:14Everything you, everything that you capture,
1:02:18then like everything else is.
1:02:19Yes, what I capture is melting magnets,
1:02:21but everything else I do with a photogenic collection.
1:02:33I see.
1:02:35So yeah, photogenic collection
1:02:36definitely is a baby from melting magnets.
1:02:43But yes, you will see both logos at times.
1:02:46But yes, my yoga, my sewing, my clothes
1:02:50will be photogenic collection.
1:02:55Photogenic collection.
1:02:56Love it, love it, love it.
1:03:00So it's going to be public, you know.
1:03:04Are you going to showcase
1:03:05or are you going to offer it to the public?
1:03:07Oh, it'll be a part of my services.
1:03:11Yes, it is a service.
1:03:13Yeah, it's a service type program from melting magnets.
1:03:26Definitely got to give it a little bit later.
1:03:33What are some things you studying right now
1:03:37as far as like self-education, self-development?
1:03:40Self-development, editing.
1:03:41I got to always teach myself how to edit.
1:03:43Always got to find new editing effects
1:03:45and tips and tricks.
1:03:47So definitely with that,
1:03:49especially going into this horror genre.
1:03:51So definitely got to get more into that.
1:03:54Teaching myself more to stay on genre.
1:03:57Like, yes, my favorite color is pink.
1:04:00Yes, I am all rainbows.
1:04:02But now let's turn that into a horror genre.
1:04:06So how do you turn rainbows into horror?
1:04:09Oh, my goodness, that is crazy.
1:04:11So like literally the first thing I ever wrote
1:04:14was You Can't Hide From Me,
1:04:17which was a monologue for my senior recital, 2018.
1:04:24And I performed it at a monologue one-woman show,
1:04:28you know, and basically I was a six-year-old kid
1:04:33who was bullied and I got my revenge on my bully.
1:04:42Quite a monologue.
1:04:47Yes, I had a tendency.
1:04:51So that's where we take our rainbows and cues well.
1:05:00So even that's like blending.
1:05:02Or a Chucky.
1:05:04Which just start with photography,
1:05:06like because it's light and dark contrast.
1:05:09Definitely got to get better on my niche.
1:05:11I know what I like, but I haven't shown that.
1:05:14I'm definitely working more for my clients
1:05:16to give them what they want.
1:05:19But I definitely will start working on my horror genre soon.
1:05:25You know, someone told me at a conference once,
1:05:28it might have been the same conference we went to
1:05:32for Imogen like years ago.
1:05:35Yeah, but I say you went once without me.
1:05:38I went once.
1:05:39I went one time.
1:05:42So the first year I went, I was like, man.
1:05:45Oh, yeah, you must have went before me.
1:05:47I only went one time.
1:05:48Yeah, I was saying you only went one time.
1:05:49I went three times.
1:05:50Okay, so I must have went that second time you went
1:05:52because you went once before and after then.
1:05:55Or you, yeah, it was before or after.
1:05:58Yeah, I was about to say, I know I went once.
1:05:59So you went after or before,
1:06:01but I don't remember exactly and it could have been both.
1:06:04But they told me you have to work on your projects,
1:06:11do what you love.
1:06:13Otherwise, your portfolio, your work you have to show
1:06:17is basically your clients control what they want.
1:06:20Right.
1:06:21What you want to show and the work that you want to do.
1:06:25Definitely.
1:06:26You know, so I always had it back in my mind
1:06:29and the people that I work with,
1:06:30like is this getting to the goal?
1:06:33I mean, I had a conversation, you know,
1:06:36the other day about that.
1:06:38So encouraging and being there for each other
1:06:46is always mind and mental
1:06:47because sometimes we do need that reminder.
1:06:50And, you know, we have off days
1:06:52and we just need that nudge like, dang.
1:06:56Like, oh, remember you did X, Y, and Z?
1:06:58Like, you know, you never know how
1:07:00it could change a person's day.
1:07:02And from that day, I created this that it sparked up
1:07:07like the support is everything.
1:07:14Peace and love is everything.
1:07:18That's what I portray with my art, even with
1:07:22from poems, books, music, photography,
1:07:27peaceful pictures that are out of this world.
1:07:35I do, I just want to have that vibrate
1:07:39the atmosphere, the universe,
1:07:43this positive energy, peace,
1:07:47elevation, constant elevation, constant progression,
1:07:52for elevation, always aberration.
1:08:07That's how you get farther in where you want to be
1:08:11in your career and life as a village,
1:08:14as a family, as friends,
1:08:18no matter what relationship or business,
1:08:26and also take time for yourself.
1:08:30Love yourself, meditate, pray,
1:08:35do what you got to do.
1:08:38Wake up, take that time for you.
1:08:40See, I'm a poor dame, you know.
1:08:44Really take that time, that silent time,
1:08:49journal right out, make a plan,
1:08:53how you want your day to be,
1:08:54where's your goal for the day.
1:08:56Yeah, you're telling me that?
1:08:59Journal.
1:09:00I got three full journals, pages,
1:09:03back to back since I was 16.
1:09:06I map out my day every day.
1:09:08I know exactly what I got to do until
1:09:10somebody call me what they do.
1:09:12I always keep a journal, yeah,
1:09:14wherever I go.
1:09:20But meditate, get a sage, and all that.
1:09:29So it's been a good conversation.
1:09:33Definitely appreciated.
1:09:35Definitely gave me a lot more to think on.
1:09:37Yeah, like this is, this is refreshing
1:09:40because like, you know,
1:09:42I do work with a lot of entrepreneurs,
1:09:44but like, I know you like the arts in there, artists.
1:09:48Well, what do you mean by that?
1:09:50Well, I call myself alien,
1:09:52not player, the ultimate creator,
1:09:54because like, I create everything,
1:09:57and done everything, done a lot,
1:10:02and do that a lot.
1:10:10How can I reach you, find you, book you?
1:10:14Well, you guys can follow me on Instagram
1:10:17at laylai underscore melting underscore magnets.
1:10:30Well, there's some encouraging words
1:10:31you can leave for creative entrepreneurs.
1:10:34A hundred percent effort, a hundred percent of the time.
1:10:38A hundred percent effort, a hundred percent of the time.
1:10:42Enjoy what you do.
1:10:43I love it.
1:10:45I'm glad to use that, and I'm glad to do your best.
1:10:52I appreciate you.
1:10:55I'm going to close with some words.
1:10:57As I always say,
1:10:59you can find me at alienizephotos.com.
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